Extracts from this work were published in Art and Artist Vol 1, No.5, a periodical held by the Sackner Archive. This work includes a discussion among Gustav Metzger, Dom Sylvester Houedard, Mark Boyle and Ivor Davies, held at Ravensbourne College of Art and Design on May 23, 1966. -- Source of annotation: Marvin or Ruth Sackner.

The number 9 is substituted for all the letters "n" of the words in this text. Curt Cloninger in his Master of Fine Arts in Studio Arts thesis wrote about (Maine College of Arts 2008) "Apophatic Art: Enacting Exhaustive Language / Exhausting Enacted Language." He defined Apophatic Writiing: Apophatic writing in the Christian tradition is a way of talking about God that seeks to properly revere him by not overly delimiting him. "Apophasis' is negation and "kataphasis' is affirmation. Since God is beyond all we can affirm about him, in order to more accurately describe him, we must balance our affirmations with reverent negations. Theologian Bruce Ellis Benson (2002) explains, "One affirms something but denies it, because to affirm it too strongly would be heretical and to deny it completely would also be heretical." -- Source of annotation: Marvin or Ruth Sackner.

This is a transcription by Houedard of the discussion held at Ravensbourne College of Art and Design May 23, 1966 relating to the Destruction in Art Symposium. The printed text is titled "Aesthetics of the Death Wish," and is also held by the Sackner Archive. -- Source of annotation: Marvin or Ruth Sackner.